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? and then someone else? then you know, you know what it feels like tonight. to be grover norquist. >> right now, we are watching both sides start to make their move. >> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. >> of course, we're talking about the -- >> fiscal cliff. >> it does cause uncertainty. >> there's a great uncertainty. >> there's always uncertainty. life is uncertain. >> i think it's more of a slope. republicans possibly maybe -- >> growing number of republicans. >> looking to make a deal. >> and they would like one pretty quick. >> some top republicans suggest they could shock horror. >> the mythical grover norquist. >> break with their sacred pledge. >> to grover norquist. ♪ another one bites the dust >> nobody's turning on me. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it is not about that pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it really is about trying to solve problems. >> i'm sorry, that's just silly. >> grover norquist is not jesus. >> he can't burn down your house. >> we would highlight whose kept their commitment. >> this guy's a political lone shark. >> nobod
norquist. >> you speak of grover norquist. >> he's an entertaining warrior. >> pledge mentality is really on the run right now. >> speaker boehner clearly wants a deal. >> he can't have one arm tied behind his back. >> the top 1%, only 42% of the wealth. >> 48.5 million people lived below the poverty level. >> we should ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share. >> the american sense of fairness, no one should pay more than 25%. >> today's republican party has imploded. >> they are in denial. >> they are looking for someone to blame. >> grover is no longer speaking for the party. >> they may not be willing to just die on this hill anymore. >>> good evening. i'm ezra cline in for lawrence o'donnell. the craziest thing is happening in washington right now. you've probably heard of the fiscal cliff or as lawrence likes to call it, the fiscal curve or as my friend calls t the austerity bomb. whatever you would like to call it, it does not look like it's going to happen. it doesn't just look like we're going to avoid a crisis. at this moment today, and this can change, it looks like we'
of republicans break with grover norquist on this anti-tax pledge. now, whether you see some equivalent movement on the democratic and liberal side on entitlement reform, that's where the key to the deal will be. >> eamon, we'll get to grover. i want to go to jody first on the idea of wealthier people paying their share. as the obama campaign and obama white house, do you think they have found the right balance on messaging about their millionaire friends who are willing to pay more? >> they're certainly more successful than they were during the debt negotiations in the summer of 2011. some democrats are saying, it's okay, we can go over the fiscal cliff, things will be easier for us that way. i'm not sure if that's true when you look at the president. the president has such a rare chance here. the debt ceiling crisis was the nadear of the obama administration. he had come to washington to unify the city and yet he couldn't get republicans and democrats to sit down and agree to a common sense agreement. he has the chance to do that now. there is a developing consensus to raise taxes in washingto
a deal. anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his party back away from that promise? joining me in his first interview since the election, reince priebus, chairman of the republican national committee. welcome back, mr. priebus. how are you? >> doing great, piers. how are you? >> you have been keeping your head below the paraput since the shellacking you guys took in the election. what is your reaction to the pretty poor defeat? >> well, i think that we got to look at everything that we're doing. i think that's what we have to do. i don't think you can draw any quick conclusions other than the fact that we lost and we know that. but i think in order to get back in the game, you've got to look at and do a full autopsy of what happened, what we did well, what we didn't do well, what we can do better in the next year with two governors' races coming up and two years later, then four years from now. so what we're going to do is we want to bring everyone together. leaders from across t
mitchell live in washington. congress is back. grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i think it will
is for that congress. the world has changed. >> joining me now is the man in the middle of this storm, grover norquist. grover, welcome to you. >> good to be with you. >> you can't comply on the bounty the mutiny has begun: >> it's funny to watch a senator or congressman who got himself elected by promising the citizen of his state that he would go to washington to reform government and not to pay taxes. when the going gets rough he wanted to debt ceiling increase. the same cast of chakts are turns in the homework for the second tyne two years later and there's not a snowball rolling. the good news is the people that gave a commitment to the american voters. for four years president obama has not reined in spending. all he did is demand $1.6 trillion of tax increase so he can spend more money, not reining in spending. we need focus on spending problems because that's the problem we have. >> warren buffett wrote this fascinating piece in the "new york times" today. you're familiar with it today. suppose they come to you with an investment idea. i'm in it. i think you should be, too. would your reply be
up to the numbers you nid at this point. >> we've seen republicans break with grover norquist and put revenues on the table. on the other side of that, here's what a few democrats are saying about entitlements. >> i think people are dreaming if they think we're going to get a deal on entitlements in three weeks. that's just not going to happen. and i think it would be irresponsible to try to come up with any approach to entitlement reform in such a compressed period of time. >> yes or no, do you support raising the retirement age? >> no, i do not support raising the retirement age. >> is that likely to be a bigger sticking point than revenue? or do we not know yet? >> well, i think that's the critical question facing democrats here. are they going to cave and allow, you know, the new deal and the great society programs to be a part of this supposed grand bargain? or are they not? as of now, they are not part of the deal. this is about defense cuts, discretionary spending, and it's about tax cuts. only if the democrats agree to bring in the programs for the elderly and poor and middle
's going to have to be some changes to entitlement reform. but grover norquist has been really the person pushing this no tax pledge, has been on our airwaves. he's been talking a lot about it. let's hear what he had to say about republicans who might break the pledge. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. the pledge is not for life. but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than, than, than two years or something. >> and zoraida, there you have grover norquist -- >> weeks. >> -- of course, from the americans for tax reform throwing out some pretty strong political hyperbole. but the fact of the matter is, as you said, fiscal cliff, 35 days away, and as we've heard from a lot of economists, if congress can't fix this, then we're in a lot of trouble. we can be heading back into recession. >> mark preston live in washington, d.c. thank you for that. s
d.c. journal the hill." let's do a little refresher. who is grover norquist, talk to me about this pledge. it is not just about raising taxes, is it not? >> it is not just about raising taxes. this is a pledge that is spearheaded by activist grover norquist, a popular figure on the right and he basically is -- most members but not all members of congress on the republican side to sign this pledge which basically says they're not going to increase tax rates and also if they close deductions they would use that money to lower taxes in another area. after seeing republicans break, where they're saying, listen, we're willing to close tax loopholes to reduce the deficit, now we haven't yet seen that from congressional republican leaders, but we obviously are seeing it from prominent republicans you showed including senator graham and senator bob corker. >> question about two of those gentlemen here in a moment. cnn this morning talked to grover norquist, incumbents dare to break this pledge, dare to vote to raise taxes. the question was will he do it again? here's norquist. >> we w
other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amount of money that the federal government takes away from job creators is going to harm economic growth and economic growth is the number one component to a solution. what all these senators are saying is they'll take a look at their pledge only if the president puts forward his plan. how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you woul
're all getting this refresher course on grover norquist, though i was talking to john avalon yesterday and he said don't -- message to republicans, don't fear the grover. we know norquist is a lobbyist for years, he prevailed upon republicans, not signing -- not raising taxes by signing this pledge. no revenues whatsoever. moments ago, democrat chuck schume wear was on the senate f bidding grover norquist good riddance. watch this. >> grover norquist had a good run. it lasted far longer than 15 minutes but his trstringent vie make him an outliar now. it is not unlike ralph reed who steered the republican party too far right on social issues in the '90s and is hardly heard from anymore. >> is he, rick, spiking the football, maybe on the 5 yard line? is this a little too premature to be writing off the grover norquist here and the no new tax movement in the republican party? >> yes, i think it is too premature. grover norquist has become a convenient boogie man, merely because we have maybe hit a tipping point on tax increases and voters are starting to accept the idea that taxes have to
, and this is a bit interesting to see. they're talking about this pledge from the grover norquist group. he's the anti-tax crusader. his group has gotten the majority of republicans in congress to sign this pledge to oppose any effort to raise taxes in any way. so first we heard from a senator out of georgia, a republican, who said for his country he would break this pledge because if you stick to that pledge you won't be able to reach an agreement to bring down the debt. today we heard from south carolina republican senator lindsey graham and also from new york congressman peter king responding to this idea and jumping on the bandwagon with chandliss. let's listen to that. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is avoid becoming broke and republicans should put revenue on the table. i want to buy down debt and create rates to cut jobs, but i will raise taxes for the good of the country only if the government will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge we signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1941, i woul
of this whole debate is a man named grover norquist. did you sign the grover pledge? >> no, i did not. i was a governor for ten years. i've got a long track record of not only holding the line on taxes but reducing taxes. and i believe that we have too much -- at the national level, too much taxation, too much regulation but, no, i did not sign the pledge. >> let me ask you about the idea that revenues are on the table as the speaker has said. i'm curious what that really means. does that signal a willingness on the part of the gop to see some people's taxes go up, or does it mean that the revenue increases will derive from economic growth and -- >> speaker boehner and republicans are reaching out to the administration. speaker boehner has said we'll put revenue on the table, not through higher tax rates but through closing loopholes and limiting deductions. that accomplishes exactly what the administration has demanded. >> but that means somebody's taxes will go up. >> sure. >> if you close loopholes an deductions. >> we'll make sure rates don't go up so you don't impact small businesse
of the year. >> one of the sort of controversial men in the middle here has been grover norquist, one of the few guys in washington who goes by his own name, grover. his first name, i should say. there are reports that some republicans who signed his no tax hike pledge are backing away from him. in the "wall street journal" saturday, he said, no, nobody's backed off. what's the truth here? >> well, he's wrong about that. they are backing away from him. but i have to say, tyler, this is an issue that's much bigger than grover norquist pcht republican party has staked out tax issue for a long time. it is not because of one individual and the pledge, although he's done a very effective job of marketing that and marketing himself. this is about a stance of the republicans as the party of less government. democrats as the party of more government. but i do think because republicans lost the election, because they've had a difficult time, new york jets fans might recognizefy said they've had the equivalent of a butt fumble over the last couple of months. republicans are on the defensive. th
in their pocket or they're not. this is a game to nullify grover norquist. some members put forth an option to tax the first $400,000 of income and people making more than that at 35%. all that does is increase everybody's taxes over 400,000 by 30,000. somebody at 450,000 gets hurt badly and somebody at 20 million isn't touched at all. >> honestly, those are the number that is make some people's head spin and makes -- >> i understand, absolutely. >> and the average constituent say i don't know what's going on here. what is your message to folks? what should they be looking at and how do they figure out where they stand on this? as you may well know, the obama administration is trying to get all of those people who voted for the president to come on board and say this is what we want and to press congress to make a deal but it is sort of hard to figure out what is fair. >> exactly. i said to my staff last week we need a big charge that shows the options and how much money is delivered or caused by each step we might take. i think for the most americans they have to know that no matter what we do, t
. >> if grover norquist on the right and entrenched radical democrats, are they forcing deals like this? ralcorp -- >> no. you know what they are forcing? special dividends. >> yes, they are. >> declaring special dividends ahead of possible tax increases related to the fiscal cliff. las vegas sands, the largest single donor in the history of politics, has approved a special dividend. $2.75 a share. retailer dillard's says it will pay a one-time dividend of $5 in december and the home of jack daniels a cash dividend of $4 a share. i don't know how large the dillard family is. these dividends are very important to some of these families. the walton family when walmart did it saved $180 million as a result if in fact we see dividend taxes go to 39.6 from where they currently are. family run companies. sheldon is a big shareholder in las vegas sands. you pay a dividend and you are avoiding potentially an increase in the tax bill as a result of paying it earlier. >> adelson loses in the election so he realizes rates are going higher so he pays a special -- >> i don't know what the numbers add up to.
step forward. >> of course there's grover norquist. they say he is losing his grip and calling him a has-been. is he still relevant? >> he is relevant and will be relevant. you see where the president wanted his mandate to sort of use his approach, that some republicans are signaling that they are not going to be aligned so closely, senator chambliss said i love my country more than grover norquist. some will not sign this no tax pledge. so there is some sense maybe his influence will wane a little bit. i think he'll be an influential player down the road. >> i'm sorry to cut this short. i want to thank you for your time nonetheless. we will see you guys again. thank you. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, this partisan rush. what is the outlook for compromise when a majority of states will be under single party control? plus, which toys will be selling like hotcakes? toys 'r' us' ceo is here to break down the big ticket items. ♪ it's so important to make someone happy ♪ when you give a child a toy, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child
-tax crusader grover norquist who had gotten a majority of republican lawmakers to pledge not to support any effort to raise taxes. >> i'm willing to generate revenue, it's fair to ask my party to put revenue on the table. we're below historic averages. i will not raise tax rates to do it. i will cap deductions. i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrat will do entitlement reform. >> reporter: it's not yet clear when lawmakers and the president will meet next. a final deal could still be a long way off. >> we rarely see the hill and the white house make decisions early. i would be pleasantly surprised to see a deal emerge earlier than the end of the year. but we'll see. >> reporter: this week just might bring the parties one step closer. athena jones, cnn, washington. >>> anger and fresh clashes in egypt as dwivisions deepen over the president's new powers. even the financial markets taking notice. >>> a weekend getaway turned into a raging inferno. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives
that and the going gets rough that they have an argument with me. >> so that is grover norquist if you don't already know. you probably should because he is making a lot of tv appearances. that was piers morgan tonight -- last night. >>> his group, american for tax reform is behind that no-tax pledge that's signed by the majority of republicans in congress. but now a few high-profile members of the gop are openingly questioning their pledge and saying it may stand in the way of getting a fiscal cliff deal done. that's one side of the equation. in exchange, those republicans say, look, we'll back down. but not if we don't get something for it. we want some entitlement reform. here are the big three entitlements -- social security, medicaid, and medicare, combined they make up 43% of federal spending last year. joining me is john avalon, cnn contributor, senior political columnist for "newsweek" and "the daily beast. "and all around very smart person. you have a column out about this. it's great reading. a lot of math in it. tons of math. >> i was told there would be no math, but there's math. >> a ch
technically that goes against grover norquist's pledge. >> well, we've already put a plan out in the budget committee. as you said, i am a part of that budget committee. and we put out the fundamentals of that, where we would have a plan where we would have pro-growth tax reform, and that means something fairer, flatter and simpler, and a portion of that is to look at the deductions that right now really do benefit those in the upper income, and that we're willing to look at those, and to make sure that what we do does bring in more revenue by robust economy. >> and it wouldn't be a violation of a sort of a marriage vow to grover norquist. he has said that violating his pledge is somehow akin to, you know, violating your marriage vows. you don't -- your deal is with your constituents, not with grover norquist? >> that's right. that's exactly right. >> i want to talk a little bit about the debt ceiling because this is coming into play here. grover norquist, again, has written an op-ed mentioning the debt ceiling specifically. a new report for the bipartisan policy center said the ceiling mus
like spoiled children. >> oh. >> as opposed to responsible adults. >>> meanwhile, grover norquist is offering a reminder to republicans in congress who are thinking about breaking their anti-tax pledge in order to reach a deal. >> we could ask president bush, george herbert walker bush, how his second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledge, or did by breaking his pledge, he lost a second term for the presidency because he had not kept his word with the american people? >> at some point they need to let him go. >>> new york governor andrew cuomo is making his case for federal aid in the aftermath of hurricane sandy. governor cuomo said the storm could cost the state nearly $42 billion, and new yorkers would need federal help footing the bill. while acknowledging that more people died during hurricane katrina in 2005, the governor said that sandy's damage was actually more widespread. >> when you look at the number of homes and businesses affected, this storm affected many, many more people in places than katrina. and arguably, therefore, this created more hou
the no taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norqui norquist, the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos diaz. but now some republicans are abandoning the anti-tax pledge as fast as they abandoned -- what's his name? don't help me. don't help me. rip flambe -- no, that's my personal trainer. >> all right. good morning. it's wednesday, november 28th. look at this live look at rockefeller plaza. it is just lit up. gorgeous. >> you know what happens tonight? >> oh, yes, the big tree lighting. >> big commerce -- >> exciting for all the children. >> all right. welcome to "morning joe." >> mike, do you think that's going to whip people into a buying frenzy -- >> it's comcastic. >> a five-year running joke. >> i guess he wasn't paying attention. >> yes. >> national affairs editor for "new york" magazine. john heilemann and andrea mitchell. >> a lot of people say, i'm in trouble. and they've got these little arm bands now, wwjd. what would joe do? so what do i say? you've seen those, wwjd. >> everywhere. >> i say make a mistake, just step
this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> i haven't talked to grover norquist so i don't know. >> we have had some people
entitlements, and republican congressman steve lottaret who is willing to break from grover norquist's tax pledge. he's also retiring at the end of this term. gentlemen, good to have both of you with us. mr. welch, i'll begin with you. i'm sure you've noticed, hopefully you've been watching cnbc and see all these pins that we are wearing that say "rise above" calling for you and your colleagues there to get something done on the fiscal cliff. why are you so unwilling to be able to do that? >> well, i am willing to do it. in fact, i work with steve, who you're going to hear from shortly, to advocate for a balanced deal. the real challenge here is practical. do we want to have a bad deal that beats the january 1 deadline, or are we willing to hold out for a more balanced deal, even if that requires us to go into january? >> does that include entitlements? does that mean reforming entitlemen entitlements, particularly medicare? >> absolutely. we have to have health care costs come under control. we can reform them. those of us who are strong supporters of medicare have to be advocates for sys
of strength. the republicans would be free from their pledge to grover norquist about not raising taxes. and we would be talking about who is going to get some tax relief -- middle-class families, you know, people with children, and other targeted cuts, and the republicans could say, gee, i wanted to give the rich a tax break but we just couldn't get there. but, hey, we helped ow 98% of the people in america. i think we'd be barg frng strength. i'm very worried that we're getting back to where we were two years ago where the president was put in a box or a year ago when the president got put in a box over the republicans threatening to defall on our debt. we need to bargain from a stronger position and going over this bump in the road would give us that. >> as you know, there are a lot of people who would disagree with you about that, not just about the financial numbers per se, say the $200 billion the president is talking act next year, but also from a psychological standpoint. we've already seen wall street reacting in a negative way, concerned exactly about what would happen if a de
with the influential anti-tax advocate grover norquist. he has asked them to oppose tax increases and oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions or credits unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates. the republican senatoor chamblis says he has a job to do for the american people, not grover norqui norquist. what's your reaction to this, these are pretty strong words? >>> a little confusing. one, of course the commitment he made to the people of georgia was not to me, it was a written commitment to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. he then talks about my plan to increase debt or something. the only plan that i think i've supported is the paul ryan bill, which reduces the deficit, brings down the debt, doesn't raise taxes, and it's a plan that mr. chambliss voted for. so i think they caught im, and he said things that didn't
, i'd rather leave the money in my savings account earning a quarter of 1%. only a grover norquist imagination does such a response exist. foos what he thinks should be done in washington, he says he supports president obama's proposal to eliminate the bush tax cuts for high income taxpayers. however, he says he prefers a cut off points somewhere above $250,000, maybe 500 thud or so. additionally, he says we need congress right new to enact a minimum tax on high incomes. buffett is suggests 20% between $1 million and $10 million and 30% on amounts above that and that's something he had laid out before. the real definition of the buffett rule. >> i always thought he was uncomfortable about the way the buffett rule was constructed and felt uncomfortable about saying something about it. because remember, he never really spoke openly about it, he would intimate that 250 might not be his number. >> the buffett rule is 30%. >> but then he's also talking about the 500. >> but that's not the buffett rule. but if you're doing tax reform, then you're not going up anyway. >> i think the main
that they signed with grover norquist. people skeptical about a deal say what really matters is the house. the house is not showing that same level of flexibility, call it whatever you want. is that fair? are republicans in the house -- you're from oklahoma. obviously a red state. are you as resolute as you have always been? >> i am. here's the issue. the tax rate has never been the solution. there's a couple things to keep in mind here. one is obama care taxes kick in january 1st. there are three aspects to that fiscal cliff. the third aspect is the obama care taxes that are coming. there's a 3.8% increase on capital gains, on dividends, interest income for people making 200,000 or more. that's already coming. that's baked in the cake. what the president wants is an additional tax increase rate increase on the same group of people he's already put a rate increase on in january. we're pushing back saying they are taking a hit in january based on the obama care taxes. why talk about a double tax rate increase? second thing to remember in 2007 we spent a trillion dollars less than we spent
the sellers think that. >> what does jim cramer think? >> if grover norquist wins, we go over the cliff. remember, there are a lot of democrats surfacing in this patty murray mode. we need to get taxes up. let's go over the cliff. then we have norquist and as far as i can tell norquist has not lost his hold on the party. that's a "the washington post" fantasy. >> norquist is unelected guy named grover. it's what he can deliver with the voters that scares these guys. who is worse? eagles or the jets? >> i was at the eagles last night. this is a very hard call. when you have three offsides calls right in a row when the game is in doubt, i got to tell you, this is an amazingly difficult question to answer. i got to punt on this one. it's so hard. hail to the chiefs. thank goodness chiefs are there to make everyone look good. >> i didn't see the jets game. i did look on youtube. that's really a bad metaphor. running into your own guy and falling back in for a touchdown. that sort of sums it up, doesn't? >> eagles went on vacation very early on in the season. so far the vacation has been jus
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